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µnote: This
document represents a series of letters between Dr. D. Daryl Adam and
myself. You can decide for
yourself if he has broken any promises to me.
Please remember that nothing promised has been accomplished.
None of the things talked about have been completed.
The first is dated 8-18-1999
Daryl,
I understand everything that you have said and I
agree with you. I am a scientist and have worked in cell biology
labs and I have never had trouble getting along with anyone. I
never thought that I would have trouble with this meteorite.
Actually, the main reason I never "brought it out" before was
because I was afraid that the scientist would take it away from me.
Now I find that I can't even give it away.:-)
If you will give me the address, I will send
samples to you or your friend. There are some other simple tests
that I wish we could get done also. We need a density measurement,
since material made in a lesser gravitational force, should be less
dense than Earthly material. Also, I have never been able to get a
"true" measurement of the elemental oxides because of the
mixing with the sandy material (see Review at www.martianchronicle.com)
so we don't have any measurements of the red lava (50ma).
I don't know why you have had trouble visiting my
sites. They are all "straight" html and I used them as a
tool to teach my son how to do web sites, so all of my sites should work
fine on your computer. What kind of computer do you have and what
browser are you using?
I very much appreciate your attitude. All I
have tried to do this entire last three years was to get an honest and
open review of this rock before a group of scientist from different
areas of study. You seem to be offering to help me and I very much
respect you for that. However, I'm almost "gun shy"
since I have been mislead by so many scientists in this matter.
But I hope that you understand that I very much respect the scientific
community and still view them through the eyes of my childhood. In
my childhood, there was God and scientists and they were both pretty
close to each other. So my nature is to love and trust scientist,
even though I feel burned right now.
Please let me know where to send the samples and I
will get them out immediately.
Your friend,
micromike
Dear Daryl,
I have been burned, but that doesn't mean I can't trust you and move
forward. In April of last year, I contacted my congressman and
senators and
asked for their help. Eventually, they appointed Virgil
"Buck" Sharpton as
the person that would help me. We talked on the phone at least 5
times and
I wrote him at least 20 letters as we planned what tests needed to be
done
and how we could find a paleontologist and etc. After months of
this, Buck
just moved to Alaska, didn't give me a new e-mail address and turned the
whole thing over to Alan Treiman, who was one of the three original
people
that I had been arguing with for the entire 3 year period. So I am
willing
to walk the walk and time is not important to me. What is
important is
getting to the bottom of this mystery and making humanity aware that
life
evolved on more than one planet, it that is what the evidence shows.
All I
want is to be able to have my voice heard in this process, since I have
been
studying this rock almost full time over the last three years or so.
I am sending you several different objects including the flying insect.
I
will also send my little spider creature and several pieces of debris
that
appear to be from some kind of plant. Also, I will send at least
one colony
of the living things. Also, I will send you a representative
sample of the
sandy material that comes from within the rock that I believe represents
the
ancient ocean bottom of Mars. I will send you a piece of the gray
rock that
is 13 million years old and I will send you a piece of the red rock
which is
49 million years old. Then you will have a good representation of
all the
parts of the rock that I have been able to identify.
Thanks for your attention. It is kind of hard to trust you, but
that is my
nature. As an example of my problems, recently (within the last 6
months) I
had a guy from California write me and tell me that he didn't understand
why
NASA wouldn't look at the rock and he said that he would be near the
necessary equipment this summer and that he would do additional
elemental
oxides analysis, which is something I need. Then, I thought that I
didn't
know him, so I wrote Dr. Treiman and asked him if this guy was a
legitimate
person. Dr. Treiman wrote me back that he did know this guy,
but that he
didn't know anything about additional tests. To make a long story short,
I
have written this guy 4 or 5 times now, and he won't even answer my
e-mail.
What is so ironic, is that the piece of the rock that I offered him for
study, is exactly where I took the sample labeled Sand3 which tests
Martian
by all accounts. But something happened (Treiman wrote him) and he
won't
even answer my e-mails and I just don't understand. I thought that
when
there was a controversy within science, that additional tests would be
the
proper response to find the truth. Oh well.
I joked to a computer friend of mine that you probably had a MAC and
were
using Netscape. That is one combination that we can't test, so it
may the
problem reading my web sites. The were all written for Explorer
and you can
download that free and have both browsers on your computer, if you are
brave
enough. Anyway, I'll do whatever is necessary to help you read my
sites,
since much of my path has been documented at my various sites.
I've always
thought that one end of the net was connected to a black hole, because
most
of my letters tend to end up there. I send light in and nothing
comes back.
:-)
I will probably send the samples via Fed Ex. All of the samples
are in
petri dishes and I don't know anyway to fix them to the dishes.
All of
these samples are very small and a single breath can send them flying
away,
so be really careful with each of these samples.
Your friend,
micromike
----- Original Message -----
From: D. Daryl Adams <daryl.adams@mankato.msus.edu>
To: marslife.com <registration@marslife.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 1999 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: thanks
> I am sorry you have been burned in the past. Sadly, science
is
> conducted by humans and there is no "entrance
requirement" to become
> one.
>
> I am using a Mac Powerbook G3 and running Netscape Communicator
4.0. Oh
> well, I still think part of the net and computer stuff is part
"black
> magic" sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't - sometimes I
think the
> way you hold your mouth has something to do with it.
>
> As far as the samples, please send plenty information with what you
> send. I am not as "up to speed" on this stuff as
others.
>
> The address is:
>
> D. Daryl Adams, Ph.D.
> Department of Biological Sciences
> Minnesota State University
> Mankato, MN 56002
>
> All I can say about trust is that you have my word that I am honest
and
> trustworthy. If you feel the least bit worried at any point in this
> journey, please tell me.
>
> Thanks for the trust.
>
> Daryl
>
> "marslife.com" wrote:
>
> > Daryl,I understand everything that you have said and I agree
with
> > you. I am a scientist and have worked in cell biology
labs and I have
> > never had trouble getting along with anyone. I never
thought that I
> > would have trouble with this meteorite. Actually, the
main reason I
> > never "brought it out" before was because I was
afraid that the
> > scientist would take it away from me. Now I find that I
can't even
> > give it away.:-)If you will give me the address, I will send
samples
> > to you or your friend. There are some other simple tests
that I wish
> > we could get done also. We need a density measurement,
since material
> > made in a lesser gravitational force, should be less dense
than
> > Earthly material. Also, I have never been able to get a
"true"
> > measurement of the elemental oxides because of the mixing with
the
> > sandy material (see Review at www.martianchronicle.com)
so we don't
> > have any measurements of the red lava (50ma).I don't know why
you have
> > had trouble visiting my sites. They are all
"straight" html and I
> > used them as a tool to teach my son how to do web sites, so
all of my
> > sites should work fine on your computer. What kind of
computer do you
> > have and what browser are you using?I very much appreciate
your
> > attitude. All I have tried to do this entire last three
years was to
> > get an honest and open review of this rock before a group of
scientist
> > from different areas of study. You seem to be offering
to help me and
> > I very much respect you for that. However, I'm almost
"gun shy" since
> > I have been mislead by so many scientists in this matter.
But I hope
> > that you understand that I very much respect the scientific
community
> > and still view them through the eyes of my childhood. In
my
> > childhood, there was God and scientists and they were both
pretty
> > close to each other. So my nature is to love and trust
scientist,
> > even though I feel burned right now.Please let me know where
to send
> > the samples and I will get them out immediately.Your
friend,micromike
>
Daryl,
You should receive your samples today, via UPS.
I have sent you 3 petri dishes and two little bottles. One petri
dish has the flying insect. It is very small and the petri may
look empty to start with. The little bug is in there. The
second dish contains the spider-like creature. It came from the
large crevice in the rock and so was on the "outside" of the
rock, so it did not come from an interior vesicle, but I think it
belongs with the rock. Two clues for this are the fact that the
little glassy creatures are associated with it and I have been able to
see sand within the interior of one of the legs. I have tried to
photograph the thing and eventually broke off one leg, which is still in
the petri dish. Since the object was on the outside of the rock,
it may not be from Mars, but I think it did come with the rock, so it
should be tested. The final petri dish contains a sample of
the colony and other pieces of debris from living things. Try to
preserve as much as possible, but feel free to test anything you want
for DNA. All of these objects, except the spider and the colony
came from within the gray rock and must be more than 13 million years
old. As far as the colony goes, there are some members that are
clear, some that are red, some that are black, and some that are blue.
It would be interesting to take a DNA sample of each color. The first
bottle contains a piece of the red rock (49ma) and a piece of the gray
rock (13ma). We don't have the proper chemistry of either rock and
I wish we could get someone to who has an electron microscope that could
take specific measurements of the different aspects of the rock.
Each piece (red or gray) has little red "spots" on them.
They could be places where evaporation or moisture has created little
areas of oxidation, or they could be something like a lichen, since I
have found samples that seemed to cover some of the tops of the vesicles
and look to have been laid down after the vesicle was made. I just
don't have the equipment or expertise to accomplish any of these tests.
The final bottle contains a sample of the sandy material that comes from
within the rock. I have taken a number of samples over the last
three years and what you have is a representative sample from several
petri dishes. If you will examine it carefully under a microscope,
you will see that this material is full of debris from once living
creatures. Please take DNA of any of these that you find
interesting. Remember that all of this material is at least 13 ma
and that the red particles found next to these items was dated at 49 ma.
All I ask of this process is that you keep me
informed and allow me to make contributions to this process.
Remember that I have been looking at the rock or its contents almost
daily for more than three years. As any new information arises,
please inform me so that I may think about it. As a philosopher,
my job is really not to do any of the tests you propose, but only to
think about what the results might mean.
If it is OK, I would like to e-mail you with
additional information as I think of it. It would behoove you to
read the information on my web sites. Please remember that www.martianchronicle.com
is the only site that has recent information on it. The pages on www.marsmeteorite.com,
www.marslife.com and www.marsrock.org
is all old information. Most of these pages were written about 2
years ago and many of my opinions have changed since I wrote those
pages. marsrock.org shows many of the letters that I have written
over the last three years to many of the people in the scientific
community.
You asked me to trust you and that is very much my
nature. So all I know to do is to trust you. You have said
all of the right words and today you will have my little "million
dollar bug" in your possession. Please take care of this
precious cargo. Have fun studying this material and keep me
informed.
Your friend,
micromike
Daryl,
I wrote you once today and then I received this letter. As you
must know by
now, I have sent you a lot of items including the little flying insect.
You
should take a day or two and just look at what you have and read my web
pages if possible.
The collection history of the rock is very simple. I had
been working on
my great aunt's ranch for about a year when we came across the rock.
My
aunt had owed the ranch for about 50 years. We were making our
regular
rounds and both of us spotted the rock from about 1/2 mile away.
Our job
was to observe and look for cattle, so this rock stuck out like a sore
thumb. My aunt agreed that it had never been there before and we
had been
to that pasture the day before and it was not there. The
chemistry and
ages do not match any volcanoes of Texas, NM, or Colorado (see
www.marsmeteorite.com for
more info). I approached the rock carefully and
found that none of the materials around the rock were disturbed in any
way.
It was winter time and the sandy soil had a hard crust on the top and
one
could see that no creature or human had made any marks anywhere near the
rock. There was a slight depression about 18" away and it
looked to me like
the rock had bounced one small time. My aunt didn't give me much
time, but
that scene is burned into my memory.
Also, I forgot to tell you to examine the red material that is
associated
with the colony. I have found several pieces of this stuff in the
meteorite. I put a drop of water on the colony piece and it
melted. I
thought it was a rock before I put the water on it and pictures before
and
after are at marsmeteorite. Select colony. I believe that
this material
might be the "food" store of these little glassy creatures,
but I don't
know. I would love to have it analyzed to see what it is.
Please let me know if you have additional questions and I will work with
you
at any level to make sure that you are successful in your attempts to
understand what I have sent you. Also, please point out the ages
of this
material to your friend. Both rocks (red and gray) are so
delicate that
you can break them with your finger nail, yet they are both very old by
Earthly standards, since the Himalayas have risen from beneath the ocean
in
less time than either of the rocks have been around. I didn't
include any
of the outer fusion crust. Also included is a small piece of glass
that
apparently was made when the sand in a vesicle was melted as the
meteorite
came through our atmosphere.
Thanks again for all that you are doing and please have fun. My
job as a
philosopher is to understand the overviews of nature. But as a
human being,
I would like to help every other human being on the planet. If you
love
biology, then I think it would be a big help to you and your career to
study
life from other planets. As a child, I never thought I would come
into
contact with life from another planet, but the evidence now has me
convinced
that in God's infinite wisdom, somehow he choose me to get this most
important rock. As a scientist, I am just grateful to see
these wonders.
But I hope this rock helps to make you a better and happier biologist.
Your friend,
micromike
----- Original Message -----
From: D Adams <d.adams@Mankato.MSUS.EDU>
To: marslife.com <registration@marslife.com>
Sent: Friday, August 20, 1999 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: thanks
> You are right on money about my set-up. Oh well, I stared
with IBM and
> even took a course in DOS but abandoned it before windows existed.
>
> I know it is hard to trust if you have been burned. All I can
say is
> that I am serious about this and will do whatever I can to help.
I may
> not be able to provide you with an explanation or even gain access
to
> the people that can help but I will not abandon you. You have
my
> e-mail, my departmental address, and I will also provide you with
phone
> numbers.
>
> Departmental - 507-389-2786
> FAX - 507-389-2788
> Office 507-389-1778
>
> You can always reach me through these numbers.
>
> I talked with my Paleogeologist about looking at a sample. I
did not
> give him any details, I want the evaluation to be unbiased. I
think
> that is a good place to start. With that in mind, sending the
very
> fragile and easily damaged insects may not be in your best
interest.
> How about we start with a more representative piece of the rock.
Let's
> see what the "read" is on it first. Is it a common
type of rock, has
> this person encountered it before, does it get his attention??
We can
> them move on to more specific items and tests. How does that
sound?
>
> I will also need to know the complete collection history behind the
> rock. As you already know, the "results" of any
competent examination
> will depend on exact information about the history of the rock
itself.
> Who found it? Where was it found? Was it removed from
strata? I
> think you know the drill.
>
> Lets start slow. The person who has agreed to evaluate this
rock is
> an expert in the field and has been examining these types of finds
for
> decades. He knows his stuff.
>
> Looking forward to getting us started on this adventure, wherever
it
> may take us.
>
> Daryl
> On Fri, 20 Aug 1999 07:07:05 -0500 "marslife.com"
> <registration@marslife.com>
wrote:
>
> > Dear Daryl,
> > I have been burned, but that doesn't mean I can't trust you
and move
> > forward. In April of last year, I contacted my
congressman and senators
and
> > asked for their help. Eventually, they appointed Virgil
"Buck" Sharpton
as
> > the person that would help me. We talked on the phone at
least 5 times
and
> > I wrote him at least 20 letters as we planned what tests
needed to be
done
> > and how we could find a paleontologist and etc. After
months of this,
Buck
> > just moved to Alaska, didn't give me a new e-mail address and
turned the
> > whole thing over to Alan Treiman, who was one of the three
original
people
> > that I had been arguing with for the entire 3 year period.
So I am
willing
> > to walk the walk and time is not important to me. What
is important is
> > getting to the bottom of this mystery and making humanity
aware that
life
> > evolved on more than one planet, it that is what the evidence
shows.
All I
> > want is to be able to have my voice heard in this process,
since I have
been
> > studying this rock almost full time over the last three years
or so.
> > I am sending you several different objects including the
flying insect.
I
> > will also send my little spider creature and several pieces of
debris
that
> > appear to be from some kind of plant. Also, I will send
at least one
colony
> > of the living things. Also, I will send you a
representative sample of
the
> > sandy material that comes from within the rock that I believe
represents
the
> > ancient ocean bottom of Mars. I will send you a piece of
the gray rock
that
> > is 13 million years old and I will send you a piece of the red
rock
which is
> > 49 million years old. Then you will have a good
representation of all
the
> > parts of the rock that I have been able to identify.
> > Thanks for your attention. It is kind of hard to trust
you, but that is
my
> > nature. As an example of my problems, recently (within
the last 6
months) I
> > had a guy from California write me and tell me that he didn't
understand
why
> > NASA wouldn't look at the rock and he said that he would be
near the
> > necessary equipment this summer and that he would do
additional
elemental
> > oxides analysis, which is something I need. Then, I
thought that I
didn't
> > know him, so I wrote Dr. Treiman and asked him if this guy was
a
legitimate
> > person. Dr. Treiman wrote me back that he did know
this guy, but that
he
> > didn't know anything about additional tests. To make a long
story short,
I
> > have written this guy 4 or 5 times now, and he won't even
answer my
e-mail.
> > What is so ironic, is that the piece of the rock that I
offered him for
> > study, is exactly where I took the sample labeled Sand3 which
tests
Martian
> > by all accounts. But something happened (Treiman wrote
him) and he
won't
> > even answer my e-mails and I just don't understand. I
thought that when
> > there was a controversy within science, that additional tests
would be
the
> > proper response to find the truth. Oh well.
> > I joked to a computer friend of mine that you probably had a
MAC and
were
> > using Netscape. That is one combination that we can't
test, so it may
the
> > problem reading my web sites. The were all written for
Explorer and you
can
> > download that free and have both browsers on your computer, if
you are
brave
> > enough. Anyway, I'll do whatever is necessary to help
you read my
sites,
> > since much of my path has been documented at my various sites.
I've
always
> > thought that one end of the net was connected to a black hole,
because
most
> > of my letters tend to end up there. I send light in and
nothing comes
back.
> > :-)
> > I will probably send the samples via Fed Ex. All of the
samples are in
> > petri dishes and I don't know anyway to fix them to the
dishes. All of
> > these samples are very small and a single breath can send them
flying
away,
> > so be really careful with each of these samples.
> > Your friend,
> > micromike
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: D. Daryl Adams <daryl.adams@mankato.msus.edu>
> > To: marslife.com <registration@marslife.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 1999 9:24 AM
> > Subject: Re: thanks
> >
> >
> > > I am sorry you have been burned in the past. Sadly,
science is
> > > conducted by humans and there is no "entrance
requirement" to become
> > > one.
> > >
> > > I am using a Mac Powerbook G3 and running Netscape
Communicator 4.0.
Oh
> > > well, I still think part of the net and computer stuff is
part "black
> > > magic" sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't -
sometimes I think
the
> > > way you hold your mouth has something to do with it.
> > >
> > > As far as the samples, please send plenty information
with what you
> > > send. I am not as "up to speed" on this
stuff as others.
> > >
> > > The address is:
> > >
> > > D. Daryl Adams, Ph.D.
> > > Department of Biological Sciences
> > > Minnesota State University
> > > Mankato, MN 56002
> > >
> > > All I can say about trust is that you have my word that I
am honest
and
> > > trustworthy. If you feel the least bit worried at any
point in this
> > > journey, please tell me.
> > >
> > > Thanks for the trust.
> > >
> > > Daryl
> > >
> > > "marslife.com" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Daryl,I understand everything that you have said and
I agree with
> > > > you. I am a scientist and have worked in cell
biology labs and I
have
> > > > never had trouble getting along with anyone. I
never thought that I
> > > > would have trouble with this meteorite.
Actually, the main reason I
> > > > never "brought it out" before was because
I was afraid that the
> > > > scientist would take it away from me. Now I
find that I can't even
> > > > give it away.:-)If you will give me the address, I
will send samples
> > > > to you or your friend. There are some other
simple tests that I
wish
> > > > we could get done also. We need a density
measurement, since
material
> > > > made in a lesser gravitational force, should be less
dense than
> > > > Earthly material. Also, I have never been able
to get a "true"
> > > > measurement of the elemental oxides because of the
mixing with the
> > > > sandy material (see Review at www.martianchronicle.com)
so we don't
> > > > have any measurements of the red lava (50ma).I don't
know why you
have
> > > > had trouble visiting my sites. They are all
"straight" html and I
> > > > used them as a tool to teach my son how to do web
sites, so all of
my
> > > > sites should work fine on your computer. What
kind of computer do
you
> > > > have and what browser are you using?I very much
appreciate your
> > > > attitude. All I have tried to do this entire
last three years was
to
> > > > get an honest and open review of this rock before a
group of
scientist
> > > > from different areas of study. You seem to be
offering to help me
and
> > > > I very much respect you for that. However, I'm
almost "gun shy"
since
> > > > I have been mislead by so many scientists in this
matter. But I
hope
> > > > that you understand that I very much respect the
scientific
community
> > > > and still view them through the eyes of my
childhood. In my
> > > > childhood, there was God and scientists and they
were both pretty
> > > > close to each other. So my nature is to love
and trust scientist,
> > > > even though I feel burned right now.Please let me
know where to send
> > > > the samples and I will get them out immediately.Your
friend,micromike
> > >
> > >
> >
>
> ----------------------
> D Adams
> d.adams@Mankato.MSUS.EDU
>
Daryl,
The fly is probably smaller than the spider. It is the only thing
in the
petri dish. It was loose, but it should have survived OK.
You can just see
it with the naked eye, but the pictures I took were probably about 50
power.
The colony petri dish is the same colony as shown on marsmeteorite.com.
You
can see the before and after pictures of how much it has grown. (I
first
noticed these things were "growing" out of the meteorite about
7 years ago,
but at that time I just couldn't believe they were actually alive.)
These
things are "sticky" and all of these pieces of debris in the
same dish have
become stuck to them. Please feel free to take a sample of any of
the
colony creatures or any of the pieces of debris for use in DNA or other
testing. Please remember that these things are "growing"
throughout the
entire rock. I have found these things growing in the inner most
core
sample that I have taken and I know that they have not had water or much
light in the almost thirty years that I have had the rock.
I so much appreciate your interest and work in this matter. I
really don't
understand why the other scientists have not trusted me in this matter.
I
don't know where they would think I would get a rock that is partly 50
million years old. I couldn't make up these little creatures and
the debris
that surrounds them. If you will look through the sandy material,
you will
find your own little pieces of once living creatures and you will be the
first to see them. Even my mother saw this rock when I found it
and at
least 100 people have seen it since I found it and have heard the story
of
its fall and that I thought it was probably from Mars. I have
offered
several times to take a lie detector test, yet they still wouldn't
believe
me. It's very frustrating, but then if you follow through, then I
think
everything will be OK. I just can't tell you how much I appreciate
your
open mind and good scientific attitude.
The fly is so delicate, it could "fly" out with just a breath
of air from
someone breathing. But I do know it was there when I shipped the
petri.
Your friend,
micromike
----- Original Message -----
From: D Adams <d.adams@Mankato.MSUS.EDU>
To: marslife.com <registration@marslife.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 1999 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: thanks
> Mike,
>
> I had some time so I unpacked the box. I found the Petri dish
with the
> "colony" and some fragments. It seems to have
survived the trip just
> fine. I also found the plastic container with 2 Petri dishes.
One is
> marked "fly" and the other "spider." The
"spider" and his detached leg
> seem to have survived OK. I can tell you from this first look
that it
> is an exoskeleton of whatever it was. The exit slit is still
visible.
>
> I am having a little difficulty locating the "fly."
I find a mass of
> somewhat transparent material that is sort of tied together.
It looks
> like it belongs together. I am assumming this is the
"fly." If not,
> you will have to help me on this one. For instance, what
would the
> fly's relative size be to the "spider." Maybe I
need a higher
> magnification.
>
> The two vials are also OK. The "ocean" and the
"big grey" are there.
>
> Thanks and I will keep you posted.
>
> Daryl
> On Tue, 24 Aug 1999 08:09:17 -0500 "marslife.com"
> <registration@marslife.com>
wrote:
>
> > Daryl,
> > I wrote you once today and then I received this letter.
As you must
know by
> > now, I have sent you a lot of items including the little
flying insect.
You
> > should take a day or two and just look at what you have and
read my web
> > pages if possible.
> > The collection history of the rock is very simple.
I had been working
on
> > my great aunt's ranch for about a year when we came across the
rock. My
> > aunt had owed the ranch for about 50 years. We were
making our regular
> > rounds and both of us spotted the rock from about 1/2 mile
away. Our
job
> > was to observe and look for cattle, so this rock stuck out
like a sore
> > thumb. My aunt agreed that it had never been there
before and we had
been
> > to that pasture the day before and it was not there.
The chemistry and
> > ages do not match any volcanoes of Texas, NM, or Colorado (see
> > www.marsmeteorite.com
for more info). I approached the rock carefully
and
> > found that none of the materials around the rock were
disturbed in any
way.
> > It was winter time and the sandy soil had a hard crust on the
top and
one
> > could see that no creature or human had made any marks
anywhere near the
> > rock. There was a slight depression about 18" away
and it looked to me
like
> > the rock had bounced one small time. My aunt didn't give
me much time,
but
> > that scene is burned into my memory.
> > Also, I forgot to tell you to examine the red material that is
associated
> > with the colony. I have found several pieces of this
stuff in the
> > meteorite. I put a drop of water on the colony piece and
it melted. I
> > thought it was a rock before I put the water on it and
pictures before
and
> > after are at marsmeteorite. Select colony. I
believe that this
material
> > might be the "food" store of these little glassy
creatures, but I don't
> > know. I would love to have it analyzed to see what it
is.
> > Please let me know if you have additional questions and I will
work with
you
> > at any level to make sure that you are successful in your
attempts to
> > understand what I have sent you. Also, please point out
the ages of
this
> > material to your friend. Both rocks (red and gray)
are so delicate
that
> > you can break them with your finger nail, yet they are both
very old by
> > Earthly standards, since the Himalayas have risen from beneath
the ocean
in
> > less time than either of the rocks have been around. I
didn't include
any
> > of the outer fusion crust. Also included is a small
piece of glass that
> > apparently was made when the sand in a vesicle was melted as
the
meteorite
> > came through our atmosphere.
> > Thanks again for all that you are doing and please have fun.
My job as
a
> > philosopher is to understand the overviews of nature.
But as a human
being,
> > I would like to help every other human being on the planet.
If you love
> > biology, then I think it would be a big help to you and your
career to
study
> > life from other planets. As a child, I never thought I
would come into
> > contact with life from another planet, but the evidence now
has me
convinced
> > that in God's infinite wisdom, somehow he choose me to get
this most
> > important rock. As a scientist, I am just grateful
to see these
wonders.
> > But I hope this rock helps to make you a better and happier
biologist.
> > Your friend,
> > micromike
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: D Adams <d.adams@Mankato.MSUS.EDU>
> > To: marslife.com <registration@marslife.com>
> > Sent: Friday, August 20, 1999 3:02 PM
> > Subject: Re: thanks
> >
> >
> > > You are right on money about my set-up. Oh well, I
stared with IBM
and
> > > even took a course in DOS but abandoned it before windows
existed.
> > >
> > > I know it is hard to trust if you have been burned.
All I can say is
> > > that I am serious about this and will do whatever I can
to help. I
may
> > > not be able to provide you with an explanation or even
gain access to
> > > the people that can help but I will not abandon you.
You have my
> > > e-mail, my departmental address, and I will also provide
you with
phone
> > > numbers.
> > >
> > > Departmental - 507-389-2786
> > > FAX - 507-389-2788
> > > Office 507-389-1778
> > >
> > > You can always reach me through these numbers.
> > >
> > > I talked with my Paleogeologist about looking at a
sample. I did not
> > > give him any details, I want the evaluation to be
unbiased. I think
> > > that is a good place to start. With that in mind,
sending the very
> > > fragile and easily damaged insects may not be in your
best interest.
> > > How about we start with a more representative piece of
the rock.
Let's
> > > see what the "read" is on it first. Is it
a common type of rock, has
> > > this person encountered it before, does it get his
attention?? We can
> > > them move on to more specific items and tests. How
does that sound?
> > >
> > > I will also need to know the complete collection history
behind the
> > > rock. As you already know, the "results"
of any competent examination
> > > will depend on exact information about the history of the
rock itself.
> > > Who found it? Where was it found? Was it
removed from strata? I
> > > think you know the drill.
> > >
> > > Lets start slow. The person who has agreed to
evaluate this rock is
> > > an expert in the field and has been examining these types
of finds for
> > > decades. He knows his stuff.
> > >
> > > Looking forward to getting us started on this adventure,
wherever it
> > > may take us.
> > >
> > > Daryl
> > > On Fri, 20 Aug 1999 07:07:05 -0500 "marslife.com"
> > > <registration@marslife.com>
wrote:
> > >
> > > > Dear Daryl,
> > > > I have been burned, but that doesn't mean I can't
trust you and move
> > > > forward. In April of last year, I contacted my
congressman and
senators
> > and
> > > > asked for their help. Eventually, they
appointed Virgil "Buck"
Sharpton
> > as
> > > > the person that would help me. We talked on
the phone at least 5
times
> > and
> > > > I wrote him at least 20 letters as we planned what
tests needed to
be
> > done
> > > > and how we could find a paleontologist and etc.
After months of
this,
> > Buck
> > > > just moved to Alaska, didn't give me a new e-mail
address and turned
the
> > > > whole thing over to Alan Treiman, who was one of the
three original
> > people
> > > > that I had been arguing with for the entire 3 year
period. So I am
> > willing
> > > > to walk the walk and time is not important to me.
What is important
is
> > > > getting to the bottom of this mystery and making
humanity aware that
> > life
> > > > evolved on more than one planet, it that is what the
evidence shows.
> > All I
> > > > want is to be able to have my voice heard in this
process, since I
have
> > been
> > > > studying this rock almost full time over the last
three years or so.
> > > > I am sending you several different objects including
the flying
insect.
> > I
> > > > will also send my little spider creature and several
pieces of
debris
> > that
> > > > appear to be from some kind of plant. Also, I
will send at least
one
> > colony
> > > > of the living things. Also, I will send you a
representative sample
of
> > the
> > > > sandy material that comes from within the rock that
I believe
represents
> > the
> > > > ancient ocean bottom of Mars. I will send you
a piece of the gray
rock
> > that
> > > > is 13 million years old and I will send you a piece
of the red rock
> > which is
> > > > 49 million years old. Then you will have a
good representation of
all
> > the
> > > > parts of the rock that I have been able to identify.
> > > > Thanks for your attention. It is kind of hard
to trust you, but
that is
> > my
> > > > nature. As an example of my problems, recently
(within the last 6
> > months) I
> > > > had a guy from California write me and tell me that
he didn't
understand
> > why
> > > > NASA wouldn't look at the rock and he said that he
would be near the
> > > > necessary equipment this summer and that he would do
additional
> > elemental
> > > > oxides analysis, which is something I need.
Then, I thought that I
> > didn't
> > > > know him, so I wrote Dr. Treiman and asked him if
this guy was a
> > legitimate
> > > > person. Dr. Treiman wrote me back that
he did know this guy, but
that
> > he
> > > > didn't know anything about additional tests. To make
a long story
short,
> > I
> > > > have written this guy 4 or 5 times now, and he won't
even answer my
> > e-mail.
> > > > What is so ironic, is that the piece of the rock
that I offered him
for
> > > > study, is exactly where I took the sample labeled
Sand3 which tests
> > Martian
> > > > by all accounts. But something happened
(Treiman wrote him) and he
> > won't
> > > > even answer my e-mails and I just don't understand.
I thought that
when
> > > > there was a controversy within science, that
additional tests would
be
> > the
> > > > proper response to find the truth. Oh
well.
> > > > I joked to a computer friend of mine that you
probably had a MAC and
> > were
> > > > using Netscape. That is one combination that
we can't test, so it
may
> > the
> > > > problem reading my web sites. The were all
written for Explorer and
you
> > can
> > > > download that free and have both browsers on your
computer, if you
are
> > brave
> > > > enough. Anyway, I'll do whatever is necessary
to help you read my
> > sites,
> > > > since much of my path has been documented at my
various sites. I've
> > always
> > > > thought that one end of the net was connected to a
black hole,
because
> > most
> > > > of my letters tend to end up there. I send
light in and nothing
comes
> > back.
> > > > :-)
> > > > I will probably send the samples via Fed Ex.
All of the samples are
in
> > > > petri dishes and I don't know anyway to fix them to
the dishes. All
of
> > > > these samples are very small and a single breath can
send them
flying
> > away,
> > > > so be really careful with each of these samples.
> > > > Your friend,
> > > > micromike
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: D. Daryl Adams <daryl.adams@mankato.msus.edu>
> > > > To: marslife.com <registration@marslife.com>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 1999 9:24 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: thanks
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I am sorry you have been burned in the past.
Sadly, science is
> > > > > conducted by humans and there is no
"entrance requirement" to
become
> > > > > one.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am using a Mac Powerbook G3 and running
Netscape Communicator
4.0.
> > Oh
> > > > > well, I still think part of the net and
computer stuff is part
"black
> > > > > magic" sometimes it works, sometimes it
doesn't - sometimes I
think
> > the
> > > > > way you hold your mouth has something to do
with it.
> > > > >
> > > > > As far as the samples, please send plenty
information with what
you
> > > > > send. I am not as "up to speed"
on this stuff as others.
> > > > >
> > > > > The address is:
> > > > >
> > > > > D. Daryl Adams, Ph.D.
> > > > > Department of Biological Sciences
> > > > > Minnesota State University
> > > > > Mankato, MN 56002
> > > > >
> > > > > All I can say about trust is that you have my
word that I am
honest
> > and
> > > > > trustworthy. If you feel the least bit worried
at any point in
this
> > > > > journey, please tell me.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for the trust.
> > > > >
> > > > > Daryl
> > > > >
> > > > > "marslife.com" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Daryl,I understand everything that you
have said and I agree
with
> > > > > > you. I am a scientist and have
worked in cell biology labs and
I
> > have
> > > > > > never had trouble getting along with
anyone. I never thought
that I
> > > > > > would have trouble with this meteorite.
Actually, the main
reason I
> > > > > > never "brought it out" before
was because I was afraid that the
> > > > > > scientist would take it away from me.
Now I find that I can't
even
> > > > > > give it away.:-)If you will give me the
address, I will send
samples
> > > > > > to you or your friend. There are
some other simple tests that I
> > wish
> > > > > > we could get done also. We need a
density measurement, since
> > material
> > > > > > made in a lesser gravitational force,
should be less dense than
> > > > > > Earthly material. Also, I have never
been able to get a "true"
> > > > > > measurement of the elemental oxides
because of the mixing with
the
> > > > > > sandy material (see Review at www.martianchronicle.com)
so we
don't
> > > > > > have any measurements of the red lava
(50ma).I don't know why
you
> > have
> > > > > > had trouble visiting my sites. They
are all "straight" html and
I
> > > > > > used them as a tool to teach my son how to
do web sites, so all
of
> > my
> > > > > > sites should work fine on your computer.
What kind of computer
do
> > you
> > > > > > have and what browser are you using?I very
much appreciate your
> > > > > > attitude. All I have tried to do
this entire last three years
was
> > to
> > > > > > get an honest and open review of this rock
before a group of
> > scientist
> > > > > > from different areas of study. You
seem to be offering to help
me
> > and
> > > > > > I very much respect you for that.
However, I'm almost "gun shy"
> > since
> > > > > > I have been mislead by so many scientists
in this matter. But I
> > hope
> > > > > > that you understand that I very much
respect the scientific
> > community
> > > > > > and still view them through the eyes of my
childhood. In my
> > > > > > childhood, there was God and scientists
and they were both
pretty
> > > > > > close to each other. So my nature is
to love and trust
scientist,
> > > > > > even though I feel burned right now.Please
let me know where to
send
> > > > > > the samples and I will get them out
immediately.Your
> > friend,micromike
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > ----------------------
> > > D Adams
> > > d.adams@Mankato.MSUS.EDU
> > >
> > >
> >
>
> ----------------------
> D Adams
> d.adams@Mankato.MSUS.EDU
>
Daryl,
You have my permission to do anything that you want. I knew the
dangers of
sending the materials in petri dishes, yet that was my only choice.
The fly
was so small that I didn't have any kind of equipment to actually move
him.
It was pure luck that allowed me to get him into the petri dish to start
with. He seemed pretty durable, since I have shaken the dish to
turn him
over to get different pictures, so I think he probably survived.
You could
see him with the naked eye, if you looked carefully from the bottom
while
holding the dish over your head. Anyway, his eventual fate is not
near as
important to me as the fact that you are taking this situation seriously
and
are determined to find the truth of this matter. If the fly is
lost, but
you help "find" the rest of the meteorite and its contents,
then mankind is
still the winner in this matter. So go ahead and open the
containers and
use your best skills to accomplish whatever tasks you deem necessary.
I
think the electron microscopy is a good place to start, but don't forget
the
DNA, which might be the shortest and most conclusive route to finding
the
truth. I'm just dying to know if the little glassy creatures have
DNA and
also to see if any of the other body parts still have DNA. If I'm
not
mistaken, 13 million year old DNA would be a story of some sort, since
it
decays quickly on Earth. Also, don't worry too much about anything
that
might be damaged from shipment. The Frass Meteorite is
definitely full of
stuff and many more items await discovery, with the chance to ship under
better conditions with better containers. I feel pretty sure that
the fly
is still in the petri, especially if you haven't opened it yet. If
it is
broken up, then that just means that we have pieces that we can test for
DNA
without having to "break" it up ourselves. I believe in
finding the good in
all events. So don't worry too much about these matters.
Proceed at
whatever speed you feel comfortable and I will support you in whatever
manner that I can. As I said earlier, you will find a number of
pieces of
once living things within the sand that I sent you and you may make some
discovery of your own.
Thanks again for your efforts and your gentle spirit.
Your friend,
micromike
----- Original Message -----
From: D Adams <d.adams@Mankato.MSUS.EDU>
To: micromike.com <mike@micromike.com>
Sent: Friday, August 27, 1999 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: thanks
> Hi Mike,
>
> There is still a good bit of debris in the flies petri dish.
I will
> use a much higher scope and see what it is. I just hope the
shipping
> and banging around in the petri dish did not "grind" it
up. If it did,
> I will protect what is left and stabilize it as best I can.
>
> I would like to begin with some electron microscopy of the
insect-like
> samples. This procedure involves mounting the specimen on a
small
> aluminum stud and coating it with a mixture of gold and palladium.
The
> specimen is stabilized and protected and can then be stored in
small
> hermetically sealed container with a dessicant. It can then
be
> examined by anyone, anywhere, and should not degrade. I am
sorry we
> did not have the chance to discuss the packing of the samples prior
to
> shipping. I could have sent you some containers designed to
handle
> very fragile specimens. Petri dishes are good for samples
that are
> "stuck" to the bottoms but they are not so good for
things that roll
> around. Most people don't know that Petri dishes (especially
glass
> ones) are designed not to fit together tightly. They need to
breathe
> and there is a space between the lid and the bottom.
>
> I have not opened any of the dishes yet and I don't plan to until
we
> agree on a few things. I want to take this very slow and not
rush
> around and screw it up. The first thing I would like to work
with is
> the dish containing either the intact fly or the parts. I
would like
> you permission to open the dish, remove any material that seems to
be
> part of the fly and use a scanning electron microscope to view and
> photograph the material. The photograhs can then be sent
anywhere to
> be examined. At the same time, I would like to send "big
grey" to a
> paleogeologist for his opinion. As the results come in, we
can proceed
> with another step.
>
> Daryl
> On Fri, 27 Aug 1999 07:11:13 -0500 "micromike.com" <mike@micromike.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Daryl,
> > The fly is probably smaller than the spider. It is the
only thing in
the
> > petri dish. It was loose, but it should have survived
OK. You can just
see
> > it with the naked eye, but the pictures I took were probably
about 50
power.
> > The colony petri dish is the same colony as shown on
marsmeteorite.com.
You
> > can see the before and after pictures of how much it has
grown. (I
first
> > noticed these things were "growing" out of the
meteorite about 7 years
ago,
> > but at that time I just couldn't believe they were actually
alive.)
These
> > things are "sticky" and all of these pieces of
debris in the same dish
have
> > become stuck to them. Please feel free to take a sample
of any of the
> > colony creatures or any of the pieces of debris for use in DNA
or other
> > testing. Please remember that these things are
"growing" throughout the
> > entire rock. I have found these things growing in the
inner most core
> > sample that I have taken and I know that they have not had
water or much
> > light in the almost thirty years that I have had the rock.
> > I so much appreciate your interest and work in this matter.
I really
don't
> > understand why the other scientists have not trusted me in
this matter.
I
> > don't know where they would think I would get a rock that is
partly 50
> > million years old. I couldn't make up these little
creatures and the
debris
> > that surrounds them. If you will look through the sandy
material, you
will
> > find your own little pieces of once living creatures and you
will be the
> > first to see them. Even my mother saw this rock when I
found it and at
> > least 100 people have seen it since I found it and have heard
the story
of
> > its fall and that I thought it was probably from Mars. I
have offered
> > several times to take a lie detector test, yet they still
wouldn't
believe
> > me. It's very frustrating, but then if you follow
through, then I think
> > everything will be OK. I just can't tell you how much I
appreciate your
> > open mind and good scientific attitude.
> > The fly is so delicate, it could "fly" out with just
a breath of air
from
> > someone breathing. But I do know it was there when I
shipped the petri.
> > Your friend,
> > micromike
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: D Adams <d.adams@Mankato.MSUS.EDU>
> > To: marslife.com <registration@marslife.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 1999 3:35 PM
> > Subject: Re: thanks
> >
> >
> > > Mike,
> > >
> > > I had some time so I unpacked the box. I found the
Petri dish with
the
> > > "colony" and some fragments. It seems to
have survived the trip just
> > > fine. I also found the plastic container with 2
Petri dishes. One is
> > > marked "fly" and the other "spider."
The "spider" and his detached leg
> > > seem to have survived OK. I can tell you from this
first look that it
> > > is an exoskeleton of whatever it was. The exit slit
is still visible.
> > >
> > > I am having a little difficulty locating the
"fly." I find a mass of
> > > somewhat transparent material that is sort of tied
together. It looks
> > > like it belongs together. I am assumming this is
the "fly." If not,
> > > you will have to help me on this one. For instance,
what would the
> > > fly's relative size be to the "spider."
Maybe I need a higher
> > > magnification.
> > >
> > > The two vials are also OK. The "ocean"
and the "big grey" are there.
> > >
> > > Thanks and I will keep you posted.
> > >
> > > Daryl
> > > On Tue, 24 Aug 1999 08:09:17 -0500 "marslife.com"
> > > <registration@marslife.com>
wrote:
> > >
> > > > Daryl,
> > > > I wrote you once today and then I received this
letter. As you must
> > know by
> > > > now, I have sent you a lot of items including the
little flying
insect.
> > You
> > > > should take a day or two and just look at what you
have and read my
web
> > > > pages if possible.
> > > > The collection history of the rock is very simple.
I had been
working
> > on
> > > > my great aunt's ranch for about a year when we came
across the rock.
My
> > > > aunt had owed the ranch for about 50 years. We
were making our
regular
> > > > rounds and both of us spotted the rock from about
1/2 mile away.
Our
> > job
> > > > was to observe and look for cattle, so this rock
stuck out like a
sore
> > > > thumb. My aunt agreed that it had never been
there before and we
had
> > been
> > > > to that pasture the day before and it was not there.
The chemistry
and
> > > > ages do not match any volcanoes of Texas, NM, or
Colorado (see
> > > > www.marsmeteorite.com
for more info). I approached the rock
carefully
> > and
> > > > found that none of the materials around the rock
were disturbed in
any
> > way.
> > > > It was winter time and the sandy soil had a hard
crust on the top
and
> > one
> > > > could see that no creature or human had made any
marks anywhere near
the
> > > > rock. There was a slight depression about
18" away and it looked to
me
> > like
> > > > the rock had bounced one small time. My aunt
didn't give me much
time,
> > but
> > > > that scene is burned into my memory.
> > > > Also, I forgot to tell you to examine the red
material that is
> > associated
> > > > with the colony. I have found several pieces
of this stuff in the
> > > > meteorite. I put a drop of water on the colony
piece and it melted.
I
> > > > thought it was a rock before I put the water on it
and pictures
before
> > and
> > > > after are at marsmeteorite. Select colony.
I believe that this
> > material
> > > > might be the "food" store of these little
glassy creatures, but I
don't
> > > > know. I would love to have it analyzed to see
what it is.
> > > > Please let me know if you have additional questions
and I will work
with
> > you
> > > > at any level to make sure that you are successful in
your attempts
to
> > > > understand what I have sent you. Also, please
point out the ages of
> > this
> > > > material to your friend. Both rocks (red
and gray) are so delicate
> > that
> > > > you can break them with your finger nail, yet they
are both very old
by
> > > > Earthly standards, since the Himalayas have risen
from beneath the
ocean
> > in
> > > > less time than either of the rocks have been around.
I didn't
include
> > any
> > > > of the outer fusion crust. Also included is a
small piece of glass
that
> > > > apparently was made when the sand in a vesicle was
melted as the
> > meteorite
> > > > came through our atmosphere.
> > > > Thanks again for all that you are doing and please
have fun. My job
as
> > a
> > > > philosopher is to understand the overviews of
nature. But as a
human
> > being,
> > > > I would like to help every other human being on the
planet. If you
love
> > > > biology, then I think it would be a big help to you
and your career
to
> > study
> > > > life from other planets. As a child, I never
thought I would come
into
> > > > contact with life from another planet, but the
evidence now has me
> > convinced
> > > > that in God's infinite wisdom, somehow he choose me
to get this most
> > > > important rock. As a scientist, I am
just grateful to see these
> > wonders.
> > > > But I hope this rock helps to make you a better and
happier
biologist.
> > > > Your friend,
> > > > micromike
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: D Adams <d.adams@Mankato.MSUS.EDU>
> > > > To: marslife.com <registration@marslife.com>
> > > > Sent: Friday, August 20, 1999 3:02 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: thanks
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > You are right on money about my set-up.
Oh well, I stared with
IBM
> > and
> > > > > even took a course in DOS but abandoned it
before windows existed.
> > > > >
> > > > > I know it is hard to trust if you have been
burned. All I can say
is
> > > > > that I am serious about this and will do
whatever I can to help.
I
> > may
> > > > > not be able to provide you with an explanation
or even gain access
to
> > > > > the people that can help but I will not abandon
you. You have my
> > > > > e-mail, my departmental address, and I will
also provide you with
> > phone
> > > > > numbers.
> > > > >
> > > > > Departmental - 507-389-2786
> > > > > FAX - 507-389-2788
> > > > > Office 507-389-1778
> > > > >
> > > > > You can always reach me through these numbers.
> > > > >
> > > > > I talked with my Paleogeologist about looking
at a sample. I did
not
> > > > > give him any details, I want the evaluation to
be unbiased. I
think
> > > > > that is a good place to start. With that
in mind, sending the
very
> > > > > fragile and easily damaged insects may not be
in your best
interest.
> > > > > How about we start with a more representative
piece of the rock.
> > Let's
> > > > > see what the "read" is on it first.
Is it a common type of rock,
has
> > > > > this person encountered it before, does it get
his attention?? We
can
> > > > > them move on to more specific items and tests.
How does that
sound?
> > > > >
> > > > > I will also need to know the complete
collection history behind
the
> > > > > rock. As you already know, the
"results" of any competent
examination
> > > > > will depend on exact information about the
history of the rock
itself.
> > > > > Who found it? Where was it found?
Was it removed from strata? I
> > > > > think you know the drill.
> > > > >
> > > > > Lets start slow. The person who has
agreed to evaluate this rock
is
> > > > > an expert in the field and has been examining
these types of finds
for
> > > > > decades. He knows his stuff.
> > > > >
> > > > > Looking forward to getting us started on this
adventure, wherever
it
> > > > > may take us.
> > > > >
> > > > > Daryl
> > > > > On Fri, 20 Aug 1999 07:07:05 -0500 "marslife.com"
> > > > > <registration@marslife.com>
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Dear Daryl,
> > > > > > I have been burned, but that doesn't mean
I can't trust you and
move
> > > > > > forward. In April of last year, I
contacted my congressman and
> > senators
> > > > and
> > > > > > asked for their help. Eventually,
they appointed Virgil "Buck"
> > Sharpton
> > > > as
> > > > > > the person that would help me. We
talked on the phone at least
5
> > times
> > > > and
> > > > > > I wrote him at least 20 letters as we
planned what tests needed
to
> > be
> > > > done
> > > > > > and how we could find a paleontologist and
etc. After months of
> > this,
> > > > Buck
> > > > > > just moved to Alaska, didn't give me a new
e-mail address and
turned
> > the
> > > > > > whole thing over to Alan Treiman, who was
one of the three
original
> > > > people
> > > > > > that I had been arguing with for the
entire 3 year period. So I
am
> > > > willing
> > > > > > to walk the walk and time is not important
to me. What is
important
> > is
> > > > > > getting to the bottom of this mystery and
making humanity aware
that
> > > > life
> > > > > > evolved on more than one planet, it that
is what the evidence
shows.
> > > > All I
> > > > > > want is to be able to have my voice heard
in this process, since
I
> > have
> > > > been
> > > > > > studying this rock almost full time over
the last three years or
so.
> > > > > > I am sending you several different objects
including the flying
> > insect.
> > > > I
> > > > > > will also send my little spider creature
and several pieces of
> > debris
> > > > that
> > > > > > appear to be from some kind of plant.
Also, I will send at
least
> > one
> > > > colony
> > > > > > of the living things. Also, I will
send you a representative
sample
> > of
> > > > the
> > > > > > sandy material that comes from within the
rock that I believe
> > represents
> > > > the
> > > > > > ancient ocean bottom of Mars. I will
send you a piece of the
gray
> > rock
> > > > that
> > > > > > is 13 million years old and I will send
you a piece of the red
rock
> > > > which is
> > > > > > 49 million years old. Then you will
have a good representation
of
> > all
> > > > the
> > > > > > parts of the rock that I have been able to
identify.
> > > > > > Thanks for your attention. It is
kind of hard to trust you, but
> > that is
> > > > my
> > > > > > nature. As an example of my
problems, recently (within the last
6
> > > > months) I
> > > > > > had a guy from California write me and
tell me that he didn't
> > understand
> > > > why
> > > > > > NASA wouldn't look at the rock and he said
that he would be near
the
> > > > > > necessary equipment this summer and that
he would do additional
> > > > elemental
> > > > > > oxides analysis, which is something I
need. Then, I thought
that I
> > > > didn't
> > > > > > know him, so I wrote Dr. Treiman and asked
him if this guy was a
> > > > legitimate
> > > > > > person. Dr. Treiman wrote me
back that he did know this guy,
but
> > that
> > > > he
> > > > > > didn't know anything about additional
tests. To make a long
story
> > short,
> > > > I
> > > > > > have written this guy 4 or 5 times now,
and he won't even answer
my
> > > > e-mail.
> > > > > > What is so ironic, is that the piece of
the rock that I offered
him
> > for
> > > > > > study, is exactly where I took the sample
labeled Sand3 which
tests
> > > > Martian
> > > > > > by all accounts. But something
happened (Treiman wrote him) and
he
> > > > won't
> > > > > > even answer my e-mails and I just don't
understand. I thought
that
> > when
> > > > > > there was a controversy within science,
that additional tests
would
> > be
> > > > the
> > > > > > proper response to find the truth.
Oh well.
> > > > > > I joked to a computer friend of mine that
you probably had a MAC
and
> > > > were
> > > > > > using Netscape. That is one
combination that we can't test, so
it
> > may
> > > > the
> > > > > > problem reading my web sites. The
were all written for Explorer
and
> > you
> > > > can
> > > > > > download that free and have both browsers
on your computer, if
you
> > are
> > > > brave
> > > > > > enough. Anyway, I'll do whatever is
necessary to help you read
my
> > > > sites,
> > > > > > since much of my path has been documented
at my various sites.
I've
> > > > always
> > > > > > thought that one end of the net was
connected to a black hole,
> > because
> > > > most
> > > > > > of my letters tend to end up there.
I send light in and nothing
> > comes
> > > > back.
> > > > > > :-)
> > > > > > I will probably send the samples via Fed
Ex. All of the samples
are
> > in
> > > > > > petri dishes and I don't know anyway to
fix them to the dishes.
All
> > of
> > > > > > these samples are very small and a single
breath can send them
> > flying
> > > > away,
> > > > > > so be really careful with each of these
samples.
> > > > > > Your friend,
> > > > > > micromike
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: D. Daryl Adams <daryl.adams@mankato.msus.edu>
> > > > > > To: marslife.com <registration@marslife.com>
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 1999 9:24 AM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: thanks
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I am sorry you have been burned in
the past. Sadly, science
is
> > > > > > > conducted by humans and there is no
"entrance requirement" to
> > become
> > > > > > > one.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I am using a Mac Powerbook G3 and
running Netscape
Communicator
> > 4.0.
> > > > Oh
> > > > > > > well, I still think part of the net
and computer stuff is part
> > "black
> > > > > > > magic" sometimes it works,
sometimes it doesn't - sometimes I
> > think
> > > > the
> > > > > > > way you hold your mouth has something
to do with it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As far as the samples, please send
plenty information with
what
> > you
> > > > > > > send. I am not as "up to
speed" on this stuff as others.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The address is:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > D. Daryl Adams, Ph.D.
> > > > > > > Department of Biological Sciences
> > > > > > > Minnesota State University
> > > > > > > Mankato, MN 56002
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > All I can say about trust is that you
have my word that I am
> > honest
> > > > and
> > > > > > > trustworthy. If you feel the least
bit worried at any point in
> > this
> > > > > > > journey, please tell me.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks for the trust.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Daryl
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "marslife.com" wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Daryl,I understand everything
that you have said and I agree
> > with
> > > > > > > > you. I am a scientist and
have worked in cell biology labs
and
> > I
> > > > have
> > > > > > > > never had trouble getting along
with anyone. I never
thought
> > that I
> > > > > > > > would have trouble with this
meteorite. Actually, the main
> > reason I
> > > > > > > > never "brought it out"
before was because I was afraid that
the
> > > > > > > > scientist would take it away
from me. Now I find that I
can't
> > even
> > > > > > > > give it away.:-)If you will give
me the address, I will send
> > samples
> > > > > > > > to you or your friend.
There are some other simple tests
that I
> > > > wish
> > > > > > > > we could get done also. We
need a density measurement,
since
> > > > material
> > > > > > > > made in a lesser gravitational
force, should be less dense
than
> > > > > > > > Earthly material. Also, I
have never been able to get a
"true"
> > > > > > > > measurement of the elemental
oxides because of the mixing
with
> > the
> > > > > > > > sandy material (see Review at www.martianchronicle.com)
so
we
> > don't
> > > > > > > > have any measurements of the red
lava (50ma).I don't know
why
> > you
> > > > have
> > > > > > > > had trouble visiting my sites.
They are all "straight" html
and
> > I
> > > > > > > > used them as a tool to teach my
son how to do web sites, so
all
> > of
> > > > my
> > > > > > > > sites should work fine on your
computer. What kind of
computer
> > do
> > > > you
> > > > > > > > have and what browser are you
using?I very much appreciate
your
> > > > > > > > attitude. All I have tried
to do this entire last three
years
> > was
> > > > to
> > > > > > > > get an honest and open review of
this rock before a group of
> > > > scientist
> > > > > > > > from different areas of study.
You seem to be offering to
help
> > me
> > > > and
> > > > > > > > I very much respect you for
that. However, I'm almost "gun
shy"
> > > > since
> > > > > > > > I have been mislead by so many
scientists in this matter.
But I
> > > > hope
> > > > > > > > that you understand that I very
much respect the scientific
> > > > community
> > > > > > > > and still view them through the
eyes of my childhood. In my
> > > > > > > > childhood, there was God and
scientists and they were both
> > pretty
> > > > > > > > close to each other. So my
nature is to love and trust
> > scientist,
> > > > > > > > even though I feel burned right
now.Please let me know where
to
> > send
> > > > > > > > the samples and I will get them
out immediately.Your
> > > > friend,micromike
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----------------------
> > > > > D Adams
> > > > > d.adams@Mankato.MSUS.EDU
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > ----------------------
> > > D Adams
> > > d.adams@Mankato.MSUS.EDU
> > >
> > >
> >
>
> ----------------------
> D Adams
> d.adams@Mankato.MSUS.EDU
>
>
Daryl,
I understand all that you say, yet the facts in this case are much
different
than the shroud. My K-AR dates are consistent with Mars and
inconsistent
with Earth. Since I am the only one who found this meteorite, I am
the only
one that can trust my own senses when it comes to determining what
happened
and how to interpret it. I know that the rock was not there the
day before
and that all of the circumstances of its arrival are consistent with a
meteorite. The fusion crust clearly shows its transition through
our
atmosphere. Both the 49 and 13 ma materials are melted together
and the
streaks run through both of them. There is no Earthly way that a
volcano on
Earth could have lava flow into a sandy bed and then 36 million years
pass
and have nothing happen. Then that same volcano would have to flow
again
into the same sandy area after all that time. And then, the rock
would have
to get above the Earth so that the sand could melt and the rock could
fall
where I found it. Once all the information is out about the
meteorite, it
is going to seem remarkable to most people that the rock was doubted for
so
long. Meteorites fall on our planet daily and are much more common
that
many have been led to believe. But I will patiently await your
findings,
since I believe you are open and honest about the process and that is
all I
have wanted for some time. So I will accept the findings if you
determine
the rock is terrestrial. But will you accept the findings if it
proves to
be extraterrestrial? :-) I have been trying to find someone like
you for
over three years. I wouldn't be trying unless I had good evidence
to
proceed. Why would I want to put myself through this torture if I
didn't
think humanity had much to gain from the knowledge contained within this
rock? As a philosopher of science, I am much happier being alone
and
walking in nature trying to understand what I see. I don't even
like groups
of people, since, in some way, each person is as complex as the rest of
the
cosmos combined. I have spent many years alone learning about
nature and
keeping my thoughts to myself. I have only spoken out because I
think I
have something so valuable that I can't remain silent. The
meteorite
represents the answer to a childhood prayer, and to me, the true value
in
the rock has always been just to look at it and say to myself,
"Look, God
still answers prayers and miracles still happen!" So I
thought long and
hard before starting this quest. But once I start something, I
finish it.
I have always been a scientist, but the last 20 years of my life I have
made
my living solving complex computer problems. I know my logic and
the
computers have been like a logical friend that always checks to see if I
am
right. I have never seen a computer problem that I couldn't solve.
Therefore, I bring that same logic to understanding the things I see in
the
Frass Meteorite. I didn't start this process out with any specific
thing in
mind. All I wanted was to find the truth. My models
for its creation have
continued to change and evolve as I have gained more evidence. I
haven't
even told anyone all the evidence that I have collected in many
different
areas of science. So please don't worry about me. Just do
the best you can
to look at what you have with an open mind and try to determine the
truth,
where ever it takes you. My life is about finding the truth and
determining
what is real. It would do me no good to lie to myself or to anyone
else, if
I truly search for the truth.
Thanks again for your efforts. I really appreciate what you are
doing, and
if I am right, and you help me prove it, you have to understand that you
will write your own name in the history books in a very important way.
So
search for the truth and let the chips fall where they may.
Your friend,
micromike
PS Did you see the news about the meteorite with salt water within?
You
might find some within the inner vesicles of some of the red rock.
The
bottle with the gray rock also has a piece of the red rock in it.
Also, the
petri I sent you with the fly in it, was brand new when I put the fly in
it.
So anything in it is either particles from its creation process or they
belong to the fly critter.
----- Original Message -----
From: D. Daryl Adams <daryl.adams@mankato.msus.edu>
To: micromike.com <mike@micromike.com>
Sent: Friday, August 27, 1999 12:02 AM
Subject: Re: thanks
> Thanks Mike. I will proceed and keep you informed. I haven't
forgotten
about
> the DNA. The electron Microscopy is just a good first step.
>
> I will try to locate the fly before I open the dish. If I
can't find him,
I
> need to find a place where there is no draft or chance that anyone
will
open a
> door and send the material flying.
>
> I will send you results as I get them.
>
> Now for the hard part. I know you have spent a great deal of
time and
energy
> on this project. It is evident from your website and all the
contacts you
have
> tried to make. You have quite a bit riding on the outcome of
this
scientific
> investigation. I think your position that you are a
"Philosopher of
Science"
> is critical. You may have to deal with the outcome
philosophically. In
the
> final analysis, it really does not matter if the material is truly
> extraterrestrial. What matters is that we are willing to
look, to
investigate,
> and to explore.
>
> It is much like the Shroud of Turin. Carbon dating has shown
that it
cannot be
> the burial cloth of Jesus but that does not deter the faithful that
it can
be
> viewed as such. To them, it doesn't matter.
>
> If the results show that your find is consistent with Earthly
creatures
and
> minerals, don't take it so hard. You did everything right.
You worked to
> bring something to the attention of the world. You are not
responsible
for
> what it was or is. Your job was to alert people and inform
people and you
have
> done a great job of it. Take pride in that. Don't think
that you have
failed
> in any way if the results are not what you expect. We are not
in control
of
> the outcome - just the process.
>
> Be philosophical. Be proud. Not many people would have
devoted the time
and
> energy you have for something where the rewards are few and the
battles so
> many.
>
> Daryl
>
> "micromike.com" wrote:
>
> > Daryl,
> > You have my permission to do anything that you want. I
knew the dangers
of
> > sending the materials in petri dishes, yet that was my only
choice. The
fly
> > was so small that I didn't have any kind of equipment to
actually move
him.
> > It was pure luck that allowed me to get him into the petri
dish to start
> > with. He seemed pretty durable, since I have shaken the
dish to turn
him
> > over to get different pictures, so I think he probably
survived. You
could
> > see him with the naked eye, if you looked carefully from the
bottom
while
> > holding the dish over your head. Anyway, his eventual
fate is not near
as
> > important to me as the fact that you are taking this situation
seriously
and
> > are determined to find the truth of this matter. If the
fly is lost,
but
> > you help "find" the rest of the meteorite and its
contents, then mankind
is
> > still the winner in this matter. So go ahead and open
the containers
and
> > use your best skills to accomplish whatever tasks you deem
necessary.
I
> > think the electron microscopy is a good place to start, but
don't forget
the
> > DNA, which might be the shortest and most conclusive route to
finding
the
> > truth. I'm just dying to know if the little glassy
creatures have DNA
and
> > also to see if any of the other body parts still have DNA.
If I'm not
> > mistaken, 13 million year old DNA would be a story of some
sort, since
it
> > decays quickly on Earth. Also, don't worry too much
about anything that
> > might be damaged from shipment. The Frass
Meteorite is definitely full
of
> > stuff and many more items await discovery, with the chance to
ship under
> > better conditions with better containers. I feel pretty
sure that the
fly
> > is still in the petri, especially if you haven't opened it
yet. If it
is
> > broken up, then that just means that we have pieces that we
can test for
DNA
> > without having to "break" it up ourselves. I
believe in finding the
good in
> > all events. So don't worry too much about these matters.
Proceed at
> > whatever speed you feel comfortable and I will support you in
whatever
> > manner that I can. As I said earlier, you will find a
number of pieces
of
> > once living things within the sand that I sent you and you may
make some
> > discovery of your own.
> > Thanks again for your efforts and your gentle spirit.
> > Your friend,
> > micromike
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: D Adams <d.adams@Mankato.MSUS.EDU>
> > To: micromike.com <mike@micromike.com>
> > Sent: Friday, August 27, 1999 12:02 PM
> > Subject: Re: thanks
> >
> > > Hi Mike,
> > >
> > > There is still a good bit of debris in the flies petri
dish. I will
> > > use a much higher scope and see what it is. I just
hope the shipping
> > > and banging around in the petri dish did not
"grind" it up. If it
did,
> > > I will protect what is left and stabilize it as best I
can.
> > >
> > > I would like to begin with some electron microscopy of
the insect-like
> > > samples. This procedure involves mounting the
specimen on a small
> > > aluminum stud and coating it with a mixture of gold and
palladium.
The
> > > specimen is stabilized and protected and can then be
stored in small
> > > hermetically sealed container with a dessicant. It
can then be
> > > examined by anyone, anywhere, and should not degrade.
I am sorry we
> > > did not have the chance to discuss the packing of the
samples prior to
> > > shipping. I could have sent you some containers
designed to handle
> > > very fragile specimens. Petri dishes are good for
samples that are
> > > "stuck" to the bottoms but they are not so good
for things that roll
> > > around. Most people don't know that Petri dishes
(especially glass
> > > ones) are designed not to fit together tightly.
They need to breathe
> > > and there is a space between the lid and the bottom.
> > >
> > > I have not opened any of the dishes yet and I don't plan
to until we
> > > agree on a few things. I want to take this very
slow and not rush
> > > around and screw it up. The first thing I would
like to work with is
> > > the dish containing either the intact fly or the parts.
I would like
> > > you permission to open the dish, remove any material that
seems to be
> > > part of the fly and use a scanning electron microscope to
view and
> > > photograph the material. The photograhs can then be
sent anywhere to
> > > be examined. At the same time, I would like to send
"big grey" to a
> > > paleogeologist for his opinion. As the results come
in, we can
proceed
> > > with another step.
> > >
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